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The greatest debate ..The Al-Qaeda and the kinetic one face to face

1-12-2005

[ the writer : Louis is a gift]

 

They will compose books about me !
Why ؟ what she is your damnable achievements ؟
No thing but I could the confirmation that you did not achieve a thing !
And what at you now so that she says it ؟
What any Louis says is Allah gift an another one is !
More of the mental and theoretical confirmations on the correctness of the militants choice are from the Al-Qaeda Network .. And your choices discredited ..

That was the end of the stormy dialogue between me and between one of traditional kinetic commands and that will symbolize its name by ( Yasser 's father ) .

The dialogue started by the next form :

Yasser 's father said : have was hitting September a dangerous event from him the call was harmed a lot and instigated the world against us .

I said : our feeling why you did not prevent it؟

He said : and how we prevent it؟

I said O Yasser 's father : you are widespread groups and you have scientists and cultural commands and a dynamics and the professors of universities and personalities effective in most of the Arab countries then how became possible for Ibn Ladn that he makes the history and he charms the people hearts and he becomes a pole in the confrontation of the West, and how became possible to him that he puts the West in a confrontation open and broad and hot with the Islam, while you are paralytics, until the news you do not know them except from the mass medias .

He said : and what might us if we do in front of this group from the rashes؟

I said : Allah glory be there you said a group of the rashes, as if you return words that the western media use when it describes its war against them that it against ( the Al-Qaeda remnants ) a pain you ask yourselves how the rash can makes the history and draws the carpet from at the feet of all ؟ then how they can and they are a small as in your description of them group that they handle in the name of Islam and make this international attraction ؟ but how the rash can penetrates the strongest intelligences in the world and prepares that complicated operation while he under a sight and a sight and the follow-up of the world but and he is besieged and homeless it is not about to that gets its day's living؟

Yasser 's father said : be patient a moment, we did not assert after by that Ben Laden and his group behind the operation and there are still many indications that other authorities may be behind it, and what it mentioned is from their being besieged and observed and homeless and poor and being the operation he needs an ultimate accuracy and a repair and a success in every steps the execution he is about to that makes an universe Ben Laden and his group behind the work an impossible matter . But leave me I repeat on you what one of our kinetic colleagues said if all of the groups and the Islamic movements and the Islamic states and their intelligences met what could the execution of such operation .

I said : does she want my explanation that you believe that the Muslim is impossible that it succeeds in a complicated work as this and it does not succeed by it except the unbeliever؟

He said : I did not say that but the accident is big and terrific that is about to is impossible that it executes without a conspiring from Alsi verses yes or the Mossad or their proverbs .

I said : so that we bear clear, a difference is between that another power is behind the work totally and between that it Ben Laden executed it with conspiring from Alsi verses yes, do for you that he chooses between them؟

He said : there a speech many and proofs that the accident is not from Ben Laden 's industry and the Al-Qaeda . The people reported a lot of the proofs and summarized the proofs in a book hopefully you heard about it .

I said : he softened and that French that wrote its book I assert that it is mad or it requests a fame but here observing on your speech, first, if the state was also then why you blame Ben Laden if ؟ the man is not responsible according to your claim then why we consider Ben Laden it caused a damage of the Islamic work and instigated the world against us as says ؟ a second, does it expect that America composes all this broad long story and it shows Ben Laden himself and praises the mentioned names and despite that is Ibn Ladn and the Al-Qaeda have not any role in the subject؟

He said that the issue is complicated, complicates the assertion of this or this but Dana is a transfer if the rule was behind the operation then no escape from conspiring greatest international intelligences like Alsi verses yes or the Mossad .

I said : our feeling ..You are ready that she imagines that Alsi any verses or the Mossad conspires with Ben Laden and not I ready that they imagines that Ben Laden and its group or a delivered authority can achieves it to its alone؟

He said : I did not say that, but she meant that Alsi is verses yes or the Mossad might have penetrated Ben Laden and its group and drove them to this behaviour and facilitated making a success the operation without conspiring in an open way؟

I said : he means you if ready that she imagines that Alsi is verses yes or the Mossad runs this complicated work with each efficiency and despite that they not can now that they knows Ben Laden 's place now ؟ and another question, you are ready that they imagines that Alsi is verses yes or the Mossad runs this complicated work with each efficiency and a thing does not leak from its penetration and I am not ready because it believes that Ben Laden and its group can achieve such work؟

He said : Yasser 's father who said that America does not know Ben Laden 's place now ? if we imagined that the work is from Alsi verses yes to the Taliban destruction target and the control in Central Asia and do not think you that is ignorant that America has a strategic target in the guarantee of the arrival of the supplies of Qazwin Sea oil and the reduction of the dependence on the Gulf region oil and therefore, from America interest Ben Laden 's staying to the justification of its continuous presence and an ideal position does not find like the current situation the Americans they declare that their staying in Afghanistan he will lengthen ! Alis what happened is an achievement of strategic target of America related to Caspian oil ؟ as for the other question then he how excellent this a terrific work we was not used that Muslims execute it and it is possible that America hides a terrific work he acted this as it hid the Bay of Pigs operation .

I said : O Yasser 's father what I said is the not reasonable one of the most things that heard them and wonder at this mentality the imaginary Almaamratia, means you are ready that these intelligences imagine Palmyra the Pentagon and the trade center and they give the prestige of America in the heart by purpose operation in the complication and the seriousness internationally and all that that from him a thing does not leak is achieved only for the justification of the Taliban hitting ؟ was hitting the Taliban was requiring such justification ؟ if you were a president to America or Alsi verses yes was I was would choosing this choice for the justification of hitting Taliban and the Al-Qaeda ? and you are ready that it inclines by you the shadow to all that and they do not imagine or imagines that the Al-Qaeda can achieve the work by all his details by their single ؟ as for the strategic target then leave me I agree with you that America has a target actually in the issue of Caspian oil but this strategic target separate totally about what are we in him, we speak about the operation of 11 September and you use the issue of Caspian oil as a presumption for the correction of the conspiracy theory and that America hit herself so that they come to Afghanistan .. Our feeling this is a wild imagination and being America it wants Caspian oil that do not mean at all that it will hit herself for the sake of the achievement of this target but with the recognition of the Americans, they Kano they plan for the war of Talban before 11 September by a long period .. By a colloquial expression ( Ben Laden had lunch by them before they dine by him and by Talban ) ..
Then does she believe that the credibility of America remains with the non arrest of Ben Laden or his killing ? and if I was actually believing that America knows Ben Laden 's place, and it does not want the arrest on it then advise you on eating the radish since it is said there is for it an effect in the rise of the vapours to the brain until ( Ynadl ) the mood this what it said in ( Almgsti ) !

He said : give up you the irony !

I said I do not exploit but you speak in a thing from Althrif and it does not benefit with you except what the lunatic with Ubay Yousef Alqadi did, and does he know what did Alyan in its debate of Ubay Yousef Alqadi ؟
He said that informed me
She was less Alyan saw Aba Yousef walks then he said for him O Aba Yousef an issue ؟ then Abu Yousef said that drew
Alyan said : O Aba Yousef Alis Allah said ( and what from an animal in earth and no bird flies by his wings except the nations of your as what wasted the Book from a thing )
Abu Yousef said that softened
Alyan said : and Alis is Allah he said ( and from a nation except in it a herald became empty )
Abu Yousef said that softened
Alyan said : then from the dogs herald O Aba Yousef ؟
He looked into Abu Yousef contemplative and wondering ! And he said ..I do not know that informed me from ( the dogs herald )
Alyan said no until he orders for me Bfalothg .. He ordered Abu Yousef who comes to for him his request then took it to the mosque and Abu Yousef sat and his students wait for Alyan the lunatic until he finishes the food, then not he finished that Abu Yousef said ..You come here ! O Alyan informed us from the dogs herald ؟
I smile Alyan then he brought from his pocket ( a stone ) and said .. This is the dogs herald O Aba Yousef !

Yasser 's father made laugh and said : so that we run to what we were in him then added : he believed me that does not enable us the imagination that the Al-Qaeda can achieves this work to its alone, and as for the credibility of America then he how excellent that faced a challenge but the American gains are from the control of the region and the domination on middles Asia more important than the preservation of a credibility in Ben Laden 's killing . And they - anyway - they have gained a big credibility in the eradication of Talban and stuffed the Al-Qaeda individuals in Guantanamo cages .

I said that the English said : he searched for the woman and the Arab nationalists said : he searched for the Jews .. And the kinetic time came the Islamic so that they say : it searched for the Americans ! As for your being no is possible you the imagination that the Al-Qaeda that the achievement of this work enables then she is your problem you alone and who gathered them in your speech ( it does not enable us ) of whom he carries the self cerebral content ..
We can say according to your speaking that you wait for the occurrence of the events so that they search for an American interpretation of them, by a meaning they search for an interpretation built that America is behind each event and a wanted disagreement thing can't happen America ؟ an event September himself conspiring from America, Ben Laden 's leaving greeted conspiring from America . He was perfumed if America has this great ability in the industry of the events and the control of the history and the ability for the penetration of all people then why herself hurts all this harming and causes a killing the destruction thousands facilities it represents the heart of America capitalism and is exposed to this danger for the sake of the execution of a project in Afghanistan ؟ why does immediately in the execution of what wants and a salvation it does not start ? what she is the problem that the crash of America is Talban ؟ the Northern Alliance is ready originally for the cooperation with it from a time but directs to it the blame from years . And she as long as America penetrating the Al-Qaeda and the Taliban then its ability for their destruction and the destruction of the Taliban it does not need September operation . You are now between two choices or that she says that America is the one that controlled the events and that it has a superior ability it enables it originally the destruction of Talban without it searches for a justification, or that it recognizes that America was surprised with the event as other was surprised .

Yasser 's father said : obligations do not oblige me that do not accept them, America has a superior ability a right but they need some times justifications؟

I said : justifications what and who with the one that will stand in their face according to your speaking and your imagination of America force that present it ؟ and do the justifications arrive to an event by like a hugeness and the complication of September event؟

She felt that I besiege Yasser 's father and that appeared from his expression where he said : he does not understand from my speech that I asserted that, but the historical experience shows that America is ready for the sacrifice of some of its citizens or its allies for the sake of strategic targets .

I said : ( she marks me by a lizard I ground it ؟ ) I conscious of what says but take in your mind that September events are first a national disaster with the American calculations, second dead by the thousands, a third the work of a purpose in the complication the conspiring needs in it many levels the preservation of the secrecy in it turns, all that a return what ؟ a justification ؟ a justification what ؟ from the one that will refuse the will of America in the region ؟ the Muslims ؟ you said that they are incapable, the Russians, the European ones ؟ who؟

And for the getting out of the dilemma it said : leave us we say that the question is existing and it sufficed and do not close the door in front of this probability .

I said for it and she has shot its compliment ..! O my friend if a kick came to you from the behind then it does not become disturbed then I is still in the introduction ..!! And we have finished the first case that contradicted in it at the beginning of a sentence where I decided that the call was harmed because of actions ( the group ) then there you at the end you say that the Al-Qaeda did not execute the operation of its alone and the question it is still existing around the presence of conspiring parties for the facilitation of the operation whether by the rule science or without its knowledge ..

After that the discussion turned to the side of another and she what if it was decided that the Al-Qaeda is behind the operation in an independent way totally finally :

I said : our feeling I understand from your speech that it just an inquiry and not a putting in the apocopative I mean around a case from the responsible for the operation .If we imposed the reverse it means that it was proved definitely - and will see that soon God willing - that Ben Laden and his group planned for this work and executed it by purpose way in the accuracy and the independence and the secrecy without an intervention and no conspiring from one of what will be your situation؟

Yasser 's father said : we will force that we recognize that he is the success in the execution of a complicated operation of a purpose in the complication and the difficulty we was not used that the Muslims can execution its like . But this recognition does not mean the acceptance of the work himself . By another expression we will consider it an unprecedented mastery in a means, but to a wrong but destructive target, destructive to the call, to the charitable work, a cause in the eradication of a resulting Islamic state she is Talban, justifying to a permanent American campaign on the Islam under the pretext of the terrorism .

I said : Dana we complete the talk about the means first, does he believe that this operation was can taking place but for a support and Tawfiq Rbani؟

He said : we agreed that it needs an extraordinary genius in the execution but what means with the divine support ? why it assumes that Allah is satisfied with this operation ؟ this operation as it said the Arabs ( month legume and time thorns ) and is still blazing by its thorns ..

I said : as for and has cited the Arabs proverbs : they have said also in their proverbs ( the Romans if they did not invade, they invade ), and what did Ben Laden is more than to he invaded them !And as for being the operation it has obtained Tawfiq Rbani then a frying of me how these by a human effort just can execute the work of a purpose in the complication and the details and it takes all this time and needs a human and Malian movement and many logistic details without revealing a thing from that ؟ and how it succeeds all kidnapping states in detail and gets three of it its targets accurately ؟ and how both the trade center buildings collapse while she is insistent assuming that it resists originally to the accident of plane collision ؟ did she read the long list who CNN spread to the conditions that should be available until the trade center collapses acted and all was available in both my state the two planes that hit the trade center؟

Yasser 's father said and his lineaments have become open and thought that he found in an expression ( Tawfiq Rbani ) a holder ..
These issues can't say that they are Tawfiq Rbani, the fourth plane for example did not injure their target, this most probably a success in a side and problems on the other side .

I said : O our generous professor the fourth plane did not fall except after its kidnapping and the kidnapping as such that happened and its non injury of its target does not come a thing in front of the terrific achievement in the destruction of the trade center and his collapse in front of the television cameras .

He said so that he settles the speech about the issue of the divine reconciliation :
I believe that the calculation is by this way a difficult and liquefied divine reconciliation built that the project or the target are a matter interest the Islam and the Muslims and we believe that the accident is harmful to the Muslims and destructive to them as mentioned then how it is in it Tawfiq Rbani؟

I said : our feeling despite your recognition of the genius of the operation and your inability in the beginning on the imagination that Muslims did it then when the settlement of this case was postponed and said that the question was still existing, and it was less for you for a transfer the proofs will prove that it is from doing Muslims then it was less ( we will force that we recognize that it is the success in the execution of a complicated operation of a purpose in the complication and the difficulty we was not used that the Muslims can execution its like ) and despite that it does not want the recognition that there is a divine guidance if Muslims did it according to Chkikk . As for we then we believe the assertion that Allah glory be to it facilitated to the militants from the Al-Qaeda Network all of the ways until they succeeded in the leveling of America edifices on her own ground and do not understand a meaning for the divine reconciliation if this was not a guidance and have remained our lovers from the Al-Qaeda Network six months or more they submit and pray to Allah that the operation succeeds, you are needy actually for the meditation of the operation details since the initial preparation to them before two years approximately then the creative success in directing the planes until the moments of their collision in the two towers .. The description of the impossibility of the execution of the operation from Muslims as say and our certainty in advance that the militants are he that makes PRLNKA assert that in the matter Tawfiq Rbani is clear that each believer sees by Allah and its messenger !But this returns us to a very important question and he how Ben Laden succeeds in the control in America and its provocation against the Islam all and makes this attraction and not thinks one of at all that he turns to you besides that punching a role is in the prevention of America from targeting Islam and call and the charitable work ؟ why do your terrific cadres and your broad relations and your big spread did not benefit in the prevention of the consequences of September events ? why all world experts agree in the politics and the history and the meeting that what is after 11 September different from what he accepted and did not hear about one of he pointed to you and if in a limited way؟

Yasser 's father said that I did not refuse the recognition that the work is big and terrific and articular in the history but was less he is harmful, and does not contradict his universe is big and great with being a harmful . You said that Ben Laden made this attraction, good, do this attraction benefit the Muslims ? or their food a weakness on double ؟ but and America considered lawful them and the falcons sounds of American administration and the Jews appeared it demands the deterrence of the Muslims and their education, but they dared and demanded the destruction of the Kaaba ! And some of their fools demanded the bombardment of the Islamic countries with the nuclear weapons until the Muslims are submitted over what they are controlled, then this all proves that the work harmed the Islam and the Muslims .

I said : it is a must if he praised with your recognition that this work is any 11 September a big great and articular work in the history, and he a last with the genius of the rule recognition is not in the ability for the execution but with the ability for an industry a great and terrific event despite being it witnesses a blockade and a follow-up and an international conspiracy against it .

He said : a thank you and this at me reserved it we said goodbye that exceed it, the case is that we believe that the work is harmful a great damage and destructive to the call and the charitable work and as I said that caused the removal of a youthful Islamic state from the presence

I said : I should give you my opinion first in an issue do the work is harmful or not harmful, as for its universe is harmful then I do not agree with you in it because the greatest gain for this work is the false state of peace revelation between the Muslims and the west then this stairs was not true at all since they succeeded in the fragmentation of the Islamic countries to small countries and divided it to ( the republics of clover and the kingdoms of dung and colocynth and dates and an oil ) belonging to them and gave birth everywhere my joint in the Islamic world a military base or an army for the guarantee of the Muslims staying under the submission .. Then they established a false peace, a peace we continue we in it enslaved and they are the masters, if it came to Ben Laden and the Al-Qaeda and fought for bringing these infidels that said that harmed the call ؟ how he harms the call and the call originally he does not possess the right of its self-determination ؟ if was your concept for the call he a lesson you cast it into a mosque or a lecture in an university and you can not that you exceed the lines Alhmr who the ruler defined, then this is not a call, this a falsification to the religion and a cancellation of the meaning of his saying rose ( and the religion all is to Allah ) and you when you live in these Qatari countries with the borders and the restrictions that the ruler put on you do not benefit the call but harm it from where that you devote the falsification of the true Islam that should tell him a complete without interference from a ruler or a prince or a king .. And what the base did is that it started a fight to be the religion all of Allah and not some of it as do you in your call .. But the worst and the matter be that these Qatari countries and the borders that the colonist put become deep-rooted concepts at number of your intellectuals when they speak about ( the homeland ) and they say for us that you bargain with us and you give the option us between ( the jihad ) and ( the homeland ) then we say for them O needy Ben Laden loves the homeland more than you but the homeland that Ben Laden and its men defends is not the homeland that holds in it an American recruit by the rifle so that he protects the grandsons of Companions and oil and if he obstructs the Companions grandsons, he subjects them .. This homeland is not our homeland and not Ben Laden 's homeland and no the militants this a big prison you name it a falsehood ( the homeland ) .. As for the homeland that defends it then he each land in it the call of the right grumbled singing and sung, and the first land we should defend it the two Holy Mosques countries ..And she is the countries that our grandfathers watered their land by their blood so that he comes the Americans today and occupy them ؟ and stand watching we chant by glories ( the homeland ) and claim that we defend the homeland ؟ and here I ask you a main question, by your attribute they participate in a great kinetic Islamic work, the totalitarianism and the universality and the seeking not for enabling the Allah's religion in earth decided cases in your thought and your program and your plan؟

Yasser 's father appeared gloomy then he kept silent for a few moments ..

And he answered : a decided yes, but its decrease on the reality needs a consideration of this reality and before that that needs the understanding of this reality .

I smiled and said in myself ..A bravo I love this kind of the answers that opens to you other many doors for throwing a more of the difficult questions and here that surprised Yasser 's father with the question : our feeling, what he is your adaptation to this reality؟

He said : the reality that the Muslims including the preachers and the scientists are weak in all land countries and is not it is wise that the Muslims jump for the combating jihad before they complete their instruments .

I said that I want a more answer specifically in the description of the reality, we do not want a speech a year, we want a specific answer around the Islam situation internationally, who he is the main opponent of the Islam as a debt and a message and what she is formal its war on the Islam ؟ and how it succeeded in the diminution of the Islam؟

He believed in complaint ! And why does she take us to the international level ? leave us we settle our Qatari affairs and the local ones then we think by the international level .

I said : Allah glory be to, a pain you say that the universality of the Islam is integral part of your thought and your principles ؟ then why it separates your Qatari affair as says about the international affair ؟ the creator Allah put the oil in our land then it came to the Americans and occupied our countries then became we part of the universality we wanted or we refused .. Then he noticed that your talk is about the universality of the Islam a deception of the breath then you actually devote a concept ( the regional Islam or the Qatari ) when you present the problem in a local way and want the description of the Islam problem that it is a diagonal problem related to the so-and-so country, and you realize well that the Islam refuses totally all this paper entities the list is in the Islamic countries under the auspices of the West, and you are by your sayings and especially the last from it like your call ( to the civil society ) you declare with each rudeness the failure of your carrying for the call to the Islam as an universal religion that does not relate to the imaginary limits that the colonist made, but it does not recognize it a launching .. Your call is to the civil society the declaration of a defeat from you of all of the principles that were carrying them about the Islam .. But and some of your intellectuals became being ignorant the difference between the pure Salafi Islam and that the Salafiya as principles is the better guarantee for the preservation of the society rights and between a concept ( the civil society ) that circulates it .. And you not needy for borrowing the concepts from the liberals until you rant the civil society and you do not realize its truth and that it is actually a devotion of the concept of the Qatari country that the Islam refuses radically .. But for me she is not said the Salafi Islam devoted the tyranny because I will say for you the official Islam that a coalition with these sultans and the kings lying on our chests is not the Islam that Allah ordered it and the Salafi one the truth free of it .. And the talk about the civil society we do not see it only an escape from the responsibility in the incrimination of the ruler to the exaggeration in the talk about the backwardness of the society and its enterprises . By Allah on you how you want that you establish the enterprises of the civil and ruling society lying on they exported you until the respiration you can not that you breathe ؟ it informed me of a big single change in the history that started with the enterprises of the civil society ؟ and for your knowledge, the civil society in Europe started with an expression ( you hang an another one it possessed by the intestines of priest another one ) !!

Yasser 's father said : as for the issue of the civil society then this may be a means for the attainment of the rights and not wanting borrowing the concept of the civil society a complete and as for your speech about the universality of the Islam then being also does not mean that we do that is not in our energy, and is not it is wise that he involves the human himself or other in a bigger square from him or a stronger enemy from him .

I said : we will postpone the talk about the civil society to an another time, but I should say that it from the favour be that it recognizes that the issue is an inability, but my question is not about your abilities, my question of he about your air-conditioning to who he is the first opponent to the Islam and how it succeeded in the diminution of the Islam؟

He said : I do not believe that there who argues that America supports and it adopts Israel and waiting for the Islam and the Muslims and fights them and besieges them by more than a picture, and we do not doubt at all that it diminished the Islamic project throughout its agents from the referees in the Islamic world and its control of what is named the international organizations, this all we do not argue about it, but we believe that the stage is upbringing stage and a settlement and a legitimate consolidation and a protection the missionary and charitable active acquisitions in the Islamic world all . And not occurs by our mind that the confrontation of America a priority at all .

I said : do the issue is the non priority or she is an inability and the underestimation of the ego ؟ it cares about another expression if was targeting or the confrontation of America are not a priority then do he is in your program a demand or a late step and postponed it conviction of the necessity of its postponement until it completes the readiness or he is a project it did not come originally in your plan ؟ and a wish I want the answer of this question honestly and an impartiality .

My last expression provoked Yasser 's father and bothered with it and said :
No a calling because she entrusts me with the honesty and the impartiality, leave me I bear a frank with you in this, do not have a clear political plan besides the confrontation of America . Yes there is no any plan for targeting America no now and no later on and there is no any strategy therefore . But why we target America originally, when it was less it a priority has meant that it is not required originally . We are not in need that we target America no now and no later on .

I said : I apologize O a sheikh if my expression was provocative but you know the first article :
And the debate of the scientists is not Bdaer * * * what between their triumphant to the defeated
But he informed me what makes for the confrontation of the American danger and its fierceness on the Islam and the Muslims ? do you have a plan therefore؟

He said : we continue in the missionary and educational work and the media one and the reform of the Muslims till that Allah facilitates for them suitable political regimes that may be in the level of the confrontation of the international hamlet whether with fight or with political confrontation .

I said : do realizes brother that you by this recognize two recognitions at the same time, first you recognize that the jihad is not calculated in your program at all no now and no receiving and second you recognize to he does not have any plan for the confrontation of the enemy of the first Islam ...

He boycotted me a saying : a moment from he said that the jihad is not considered, we believe in the necessity of the jihad but in its time and its circumstance .

Here she found the opportunity suitable for its showering with the questions that I realize well that it will trick the answer to it :

I said : do you have programs for the preparation of your cadres and their training a jihad for example؟

He said : no, but we do not believe originally that we need that ؟ we believe that the obligation of the jihad is a decided issue in the Sharia and can not us that we doubt it .

I said : our feeling, repeat the question, do you have programs for the upbringing of your cadres a jihad in districts or training camps or any thing it represents them or at least you raise them on the classification of the world and the look to it from a jihad telescope, and you bode a state in which the jihad caller calls؟

He said : you know that the circumstances do not allow that at all, and what names with the jihad upbringing opens on us doors we in a sufficiency from them now . And we in the sentence against these ideas that most probably reaches the destruction of the Islamic movements as happened in Egypt and Algeria .

I said : he means you see that just the jihad upbringing and the education of the people be that they talk to themselves about the invasion and they are trained when necessary to the future and look at the world by a jihad telescope an inadmissible issue because it brings upon you the destruction of the Islamic work ؟ he was perfumed do other than you prevent from doing him؟

He said : he softened because it will lead to the damage of all of the Islamic work as happened after the events of September and as happened after the events of Egypt and Algeria, and the Qur'an it says to who its instruments did not become complete a pain they see to the ones who said for them that held back your hands and performed the prayer .

I said : you if was decided throughout this verse and throughout mixing Egypt model and Algeria with September form freezing the duty of the combating jihad whether with the systems is Altaghotia in the Islamic world or with the tops of the frank disbelief till that it becomes complete what I named the instruments ؟ and go to farther than that then you avoid the jihad upbringing and the training and the preparation until it does not lead to this result؟

He said : yes but she does not understand from our speaking that we annul the jihad duty but we believe decisive that the jihad is a proved imposition by the Book and the Sunna and from it doubted its proposition that denied a known from the religion necessarily .

I said : she does not worry that will not understand your speech of a mistake, but we will need to ( Nicolas then to a more inclined ) another and ( philosopher stone ) a new until we solve the problem that says it ! Since it becomes clear that the belief in the necessity of the jihad is a mere theoretical issue from your speech that is not good that it applies a thing from it, and no until the jihad upbringing and the preparation and the training .And the verses of fight and enabling of the Allah's religion in earth and the talks of the incitement on the jihad and the presence of a believing sect throughout ages raise the jihad flag and the agreement of the scientists on the necessity of the preparation and the pre-Islamic death to who himself did not talk about the invasion all to frozen issues؟

I was knowing that the speech about the jihad is from the straits have ( the kinetic ) and many they blunder in them and has stuffed Yasser 's father in the angle and escapes by to he said :

I fear that I force the repetition of the previous speech that elevated it but Dana uses a better expression from a frozen and she is postponed .

I said : for the completion of the destruction on its argument and the move to a new point :
Our feeling the idea became clear here, and we reached that you have postponed or froze all of the issues related to the jihad and here that will enter into a problem that is not with the Al-Qaeda Network but with Allah Glory be to Him .. And I hope from Allah that it has mercy on you .. But Dana exceeds it to a question with more accuracy and he is a return to the reality adaptation issue concerning the confrontation of the American enemy . You froze or postponed all jihad projects and what is connected with them according to your understanding of America reality and the Islamic world and your estimation of your capabilities .The important question here not to you consider the activity of an important authority like the Al-Qaeda Network part from this reality ؟ you observe and analyze America reality and the Islamic world, so you see that it is important an observation and the understanding of a nature and a curriculum and the strategy of this organization it has been proved that it is an important number in the equation؟

He said : we do not believe that the Al-Qaeda Network needs a related observation then he is a known organization by a known history by known targets and a known activity, and the imagination of the international confrontation remains as he . With all our estimation to the jihad history to the symbols that in the Al-Qaeda confirm that it but for the American reaction is on the provocations of the Al-Qaeda to what they had that big influence . Any rash human can that provokes America and from it the reaction brings this .

I said : do you are sure that any rash human can provokes America and brings a terrific reaction like the one that happened after September events or until after Kenya and Tanzania ؟ Alis from the justice and the justice that we meditate on the events few and see the development of the Al-Qaeda operations from the events of Somalia and Aden to the explosion of Riyadh and Alkhbr to hitting Kenya and Tanzania to hitting the USS Cole to hitting September ؟ escalating hitting by growing American reactions, honestly did you meditate and studied series of the works that the Al-Qaeda executed until he says that he is just a rash work ؟ but leave me I am the most simplicity in the question, do a danger in mind that the Al-Qaeda has a true strategy and not just a provocation of the Americans؟

He said that we doubt the presence of a strategy by the true meaning at the Al-Qaeda and all that thinks it that they enjoyed the issue of America challenge to what it brings from an excitement of the Islamic emotions, and the emotions do not make a change . And the living in the circumstances of hardness and intensity of them is a taste and a pleasure impresses some .

I said : the generous brother, does he recognize that you by that recognize that you are you and your group and your movement you know only general impressions about the rule and not a knowledge by its truth and its strategy and its curriculum and its plan؟

He said that we study its curriculum and its strategy an examination, and it has explained to us that it is the mobilization of emotions against America and crumbling . In other words we believe that there is no strategy originally but he is Hamas an urged with the spite against America agreed with a love at the Muslims publics .

I said : not to she believes that this is a proof on your weakness of you and not a proof on the weakness of the Al-Qaeda ؟ you a while ago it recognized that it does not have a program and no a strategic no a local and no an international and that you repeat upbringing method and call style the time overused it .I ask you a frank question, did you think in your group or your movement that you teach the Al-Qaeda phenomenon and Ben Laden an elaborate study ? or did you go to farther than that and sent from your party delegates that ask the Al-Qaeda about their curriculum؟

He said : the frank answer he no this and no this, we did not teach the Al-Qaeda phenomenon an elaborate study and did not send delegates to the talk with the Al-Qaeda . As for sending delegates then an issue surrounded by the dangers and as for the elaborate study then I said for you that we may do without it with the examination of the events .

I said : with resentment ! O brother is a group and a responsible movement and not you a grocery or a primary school, the events that was attributed to the rule and the consequences that events followed no argues one of that it is graves, do can one of that he claims that he can the judgement on the rule and its strategy and did not present an elaborate study until to the events attributed to it and its consequences ؟ leave me I bear the most clarity, did you prepare studies or considerations of the events of September and its consequences in a totalitarian, regardless of the rule and its strategy way ? did you spread between your cadres or until to the public a thing from that ؟ I did not inform and did not hear about a study from your proverbs about September events .

Said a trying the defence : we follow up the events closely but the truth that it no elaborate study and no a non elaborate study, we observe like other than us and read the newspapers and follow up the news and we have a general imagination and were we and is still do not believing that we are in need to this study . The consequences are clear and does not need a search, an American repression and an arrogance, the eradication of a youthful Islamic state he represented Talban, stuffing the Al-Qaeda individuals in Guantanamo cages, the blockade on the charitable Islamic work and a big list from the losses is in the Islamic project .

I said : he concerns me from your speech of two points, first that recognizes clearly totally that you did not think until by an elaborate study to the events of September and its consequences besides that you study the Al-Qaeda phenomenon . A second that you accept methodically that you judge on the matters without a methodic study . By Allah you should not you ask yourselves and you are groups in them big mentalities and the professors of universities and intellectuals and intellectuals why do you accept for yourselves that you judge on great problems by impressions and sittings opinions like all of the peoples ? what is the group interest if ؟ do I consider this a recognition from you it adds to your first recognition that you do not have the methodology of the interaction with the events on the study way and the deliberation in the judgement ؟ a wish that the answer gives frankly and a deposit as answered in the last time ..

He said : I believe that I was honest very with you in my answers and no a calling so that they advise me on this way, I recognize that we do not deal with the methodology of study and information and no the strategic observation . This at me a problem not recognizing for you it and she is a fault known in us we do not deny it . But this does not make Ben Laden and the Al-Qaeda on a right necessarily .Take for example a very simple issue, why Ben Laden monopolized this big decision and he is the confrontation of America؟

I said : our feeling we got from you with two important recognitions : the first she was less in it you not at you a politics and no a clear political program and now it says that you do not depend on the studies in the specification of your situations . Frankly your last question reflects totally this recognition at you . But regardless of being your request he reflects your recognition, not to it notices that your question about Bin Ladn Ghareb 's monopolization and you recognize that the Muslims are weak and divided and they have not an entity, but and he recognizes that you are kinetic and organizing that do not have studies and no methodology in the knowledge of the matters .If the Muslims state was with this badness and the weakness and the division and the lack of organization and reference then who she is the authority that Ben Laden consults and what he is the logical or legitimate justification of it that he consults her ؟ then how does he consult about a sensitive and dangerous function as this a wide circle like the Islamic groups headquarters that do not hold secretely ? and what he is the legitimate basis that obliges it by it that he consults؟

He spread an explaining : I did not mean that he consults the groups or the kinetic movements, I meant the confidences . Is difficult that we say it becomes necessary a Sharia that it consults but the case is logically accepted . And the absence of the reference is right but at least he is familiar with an opinion who trusts by it and the arrival at it is possible from the sheikhs and the scientists and the intellectuals .

I said : a good O Yasser 's father this issue from two parts it is a must from their clarification, the first : who they are the consultation people ؟ and the second : did he consult Ben Laden or he did not spread ؟ if is meaning with your question for example why Ben Laden some specific sheikhs did not consult about your mind like the sheikh Sfr Alhoali or the sheikh Salman the return then I will say for you these sheikhs are despite the magnificence of their position in the knowledge but they not from the consultation people . She may ask me why ؟ then I say for you because the disagreement with them about the origin, and he is the jihad case itself then these sheikhs since the beginning of the jihad project were advising the young man on the non departure for Afghanistan since the jihad days against the Russians then how it assumes from the sheikh that it consults them and their proverbs and they originally refuse the principle in the faculty and believe in freezing or the postponement of the jihad project . And as for the second part, then why does it assume that it did not spread ? if this was the aim that has happened and the sheikh consulted actually who the arrival at it is possible and trusts its opinion and its science . But until this if he did not do it then he is not on it a dust and no criticism if we took into the consideration your recognition of the division of the Islamic work and the security blockade on the scientists and the preachers and our agreement on the absence of the reference . And the sheikh from his care surprised with the consultation of a number of Almothoqin and intention to the work according to their opinion and their support . And to the interest circumstances and the protection of these names the sheikh did not declare them and no expects from them themselves that they declare that the sheikh consulted them . And this secrecy as long as an expected matter then how it asserts that the sheikh did not consult, specially that you agreed that you do not demand it the consultation of the Islamic groups ؟ and added to the completion of the picture that this consultation from the sheikh to who could that it arrives to it from the scientists and the intellectuals is an addition for its complete dependence on the consultation of the Al-Qaeda Shura Council in which many of the legitimate and cultural experiences and the intellectual and military ones .

And it appears that the answer was sudden to Yasser 's father then said wondering :
A perfume how they advise on it by such opinion and has led the Muslims to this confrontation that did not answer me to a limit now about its destructive monuments؟

I said : I heard from you a while ago a recognition that you measure the matters an impressionistic measurement without studies and no methodology .He this recognition happened then does it agree me that the measurement of gains and losses in a big operation like this it is built on a methodic interaction ؟ leave us from your inability and your failure as a group from that, you are personally on the personal level is the danger in your mind of a methodic way for the reformation of such operation on the scale of historical and political and strategic ? not to it agrees with me that the assessment needs the adaptation of the Islamic reality and the points of its weakness and strengthened it, the adaptation of the running truth and its specification and the specification of its weakness points and strengthened it, the study of the event nature himself, and do was just hitting buildings or was deeper than that ؟ was there are gains the Arab and international media trying their obliteration but their denial is not possible ؟ or we originally can not realization them because the field of our measurement is related to the activity of the organizational work only ؟ did I return to the behind and tried you are personally the study of the Al-Qaeda phenomenon and what wants exactly from giving America by this way and do to the Al-Qaeda a clear strategy establish their behaviours on their basis؟


And because it was under the pressure always Yasser 's father has decided the attack this time

He said : why we try that we exaggerate the Al-Qaeda more than and necessary with this big speech ؟ why we assume that they have a strategy and clear targets and politics and so on ؟ why it demands me personally by all that until can I to it answered on the question ؟ the gains and the losses are in my view a clear, I counted for you the terrific losses gave me a single gain؟

I said : she mentioned for you in the past the great gain in ending the false state of peace between the Muslims and the west and add here that the difference is between me and between you that I am not captive for the educational kinetic organizational work that restricts the gains and the losses in very limited cases . Before I show for you the Al-Qaeda strategy I answer you simply as much as your question, did you manage the notice of this terrific Islamic awakening all over the Islamic world all in the identity case ؟ a pain it notices considering the Muslims of their identity card because of the American challenge of them and their targeting in their name ؟ did you manage the notice of the effect of the collapse of the trade towers in front of the television screens and a repetition that dozens of times on the prestige of America ؟ did you from the notice that the Muslims realized manage that with their ability without an advanced weapon and no atomic bombs that they do the deeds in their opponent only with the belief and the good planning and the mastery in the work ؟ did you manage the notice of the rise of the symbolism of the Al-Qaeda and Ben Laden in all Muslims minds and their change to a true counterpart to The United States ? it appeared occurred in mind that that developed in its work from Somalia and Aden to Riyadh and Alkhbr to Kenya and Tanzania to hitting the USS Cole to September events definitely it has an escalating coming step like the rise of these steps ؟ did you see big numbers readiness extent from the Muslims for the confrontation of America and the quotation in a battle with it ؟ did you see the way of the Muslims feeling that they became not incapable in front of what happened in Palestine and that America is Ts

Yasser 's father said that this speech that says it may be right but he is general that complicates his measurement and his specification as a specific gain, and with ability all claiming that he claims him .

I said : as for its universe is a year and its measurement and its specification are difficult then a right speech and not right, right from that these matters their measurement is not possible by number or by a block or by a number or by a size anyway, and not right from the non the possibility of this change estimation at all, because the changes that pointed to them all their estimation are possible and it does not argue about their occurrence in the Muslim communities except stubborn . Until the western newspapers they confirmed the occurrence of these matters but there from the work of studies and statistics approached their specification a digital .

Yasser 's father said : our feeling regardless of these matters that their measurement are difficult how it wants that it puts these gains or the claimed achievements in the Al-Qaeda strategy context if there was actually a strategy to the Al-Qaeda؟

I said that the Al-Qaeda put a clear target and they imagined its clear of its instruments and its means and put a specific plan in specific stages and put politics that repairs the styles of its work . The Al-Qaeda has decided early that America is a problem in front of the emergence of Islam as a power and that all the tyrants of Arabs and Muslims will be exposed to the paralysis after the weakness of America or its disintegration . And therefore was clear at the Al-Qaeda that its target is dismantling America or its collapse or at least its terrorism and its exclusion in a compulsory way about the Islamic world . And as for the instruments their choice has taken place according to the understanding of the Islamic and international reality a good understanding and the imagination of the opponent and the structural holes in it and the understanding of the Al-Qaeda of soul and their circumstances and the greatest trick has resorted to them the rule she in the transfer of the opponent instruments and its abilities against it and especially in the field of the use of the American reaction on the provocations of the Al-Qaeda in the mobilization of the Muslims against America and their recruitment with the Al-Qaeda . And as for the plan has put the matter settlement issue with America as the last stage it preceded it the presence verification stage in the statement of bringing the crusade forces from the Arabian Peninsula then the Americans excitement stage the term of their operating public relations instrument for the mobilization of the people against America from and the recruitment of the cadres with the Al-Qaeda directly on the other side then the settlement stage and she is the hitting stage inside America and that started with the battle of September and it is assumed that hitting the suffix of the American psychology crash follow it from it the country collapses . And the Al-Qaeda benefitted from the circumstances of Afghanistan and the protection of the Taliban a maximum benefiting and trained thousands of cadres in the jihad . As for the politics then the rule is clear totally that they are committed to the jihad Salafi Islam and not at them half solutions and no pragmatism, and she is clear that they concentrate on the target only and does not busy herself by other matters, and a clear that they do not enter disagreements and no disputes with other Islamic and clear powers that they stick to their plan and they are not enticed to reactions . This is not except summarizing the Al-Qaeda strategy or if we wanted the writing in this subject in detail to what books embraced but it will find a rich in an article ( the jihad is a genius and an inspiration ..The Al-Qaeda a model )

He spread a sarcastic !: as if you speak about a greater organization from the countries while we see only a hidden group behind the mountains that do not have a thing mentions then how does it give it this great description ? the present Islamic groups are despite its penetrations of the educational and economic enterprises but and until the military is impossible that it approaches for this description that described it, not to it sees that you exaggerate؟

I said : this your problem, you judge on the world throughout your hard kinetic experience the complicated bureaucracy is organically and therefore the understanding of the way by which the Al-Qaeda could that it produces a great work is difficult for you . Your experience transfers in it the organization to hindrance instrument instead of that it is coordination instrument and an arrangement and an integration and a maturation and a making a success . The Al-Qaeda solved this problem an easy solution by two tricks, the first is that it canceled the idea of the hierarchical organization and the organizational connection in a single structure and caused its place the university idea or the faculty that educate the cadres and hence it launches these cadres so that she works at a like plan advertiser and makes abilities and the Al-Qaeda relations under its handling, the second that it got rid of a problem that the belonging means the isolation from the society and it trained its cadres in the integration into the societies and made its declared program part of the aspiration of the society and hence it transferred the society nature and a lot of its abilities spontaneously to the service of its targets . These advantages do not need a genius for the explanation in their execution, all that needs it is the understanding of the idea origin . Your organizations of the generous brother changed the idea and made the organization a reason in freezing the cadres and the hindrance of the abilities and the Islamic efficiencies belonging to you . You did not launch these efficiencies so that they handle with freedom and did not provide for them the integrated program built on a clear strategy . Does she know brother how does the Al-Qaeda choose the commands ? they not they your example they choose the most ( an obedience and a discipline ) to who they are over them from kinetic commands, they choose their commands according to their behaviours in the true battles because the human in the battle time becomes false from himself inclined the world and brings a better what he have if was who wants Allah and the afterworld .. And your worse problem is that you reform the other according to your backward organizational experience . The generous brother did I yourself ask how did the Al-Qaeda could development until it arrived to the execution of this complicated operation in America heart with each mastery and accuracy ? he noticed that the rule is besieged and lives under an international conspiracy, and is not free and free like most of your organizations .

Yasser 's father said and as if the previous speech all did not make a thing with him : with my respect of the strategy that presents it and attributes it to the Al-Qaeda does the base believe or its leaders that the nation is ready in the backward its present weak situation with respect to the power and the development and overtaking the civilization procession in a situation that enables it the confrontation of the big opponents of the Islam and specially America ؟ Alis from the worthiest that we exercise the educational and development jihad Waltoawy is till that we arrive to the situation that enables us raising the jihad flag frank and high؟

I said : and the boredom of its speech has possessed me : who prevented you that it exercises the educational jihad Waltoawy and the development one ؟ it continued in the exercise of your jihad but no Tthrb on the one(s) who exercises a true jihad and is not figuratively .

He said : defending its opinion : I am no Athrb a misuse, I say the nation not prepared and therefore, its pull is to the confrontation state without that it is in a state of alert and a preparation and you prepared for them what could from a power confuses the nation all and spoils the other jihad kinds that named it a figurative .

I said : first the generous brother the verse said what could and he did not oblige by a specific level from the enabling and the power then hope that no he meant citing it a Sharia because he citing it is not correct by that way .A second what he is legal evidence or the logical one that the Muslims are committed that they get ready by a specific level before they face their opponents and exercise the fight ؟ the legal evidence not on the reverse ؟ the Muslims scholars not agreeing on the necessity of Alsael incitement an instant necessity ؟ Alis is what America exercises in the stabilization of its armies in the two Holy Mosques countries and the support of the Jews in Palestine and the confirmation of agents from the Muslims tyrants it enables its air-conditioning of Balsael that annuls its payment immediately by any means ؟ but until logically what she is the readiness that want them until the Muslims in a situation were can in it confrontation a superpower like America؟

He said : they establish a country represented, the Taliban country represented, it develops and it becomes an international power, or cause a change in one of the Muslims countries in favour of the Islam, but will not be in need to the confrontation of America soldier if that happened because they can for me an economic America arm or politically or until with the call inside America . The important that the Muslims become strong culturally before they enter in like this dangerous confrontation .

I said : if was I the generous brother he speaks from an ignorance and the non follow-up and no knowledge by the international politics and the new localism and about the non follow-up for the activity of the Al-Qaeda we excused you in your speech this, but me I assert that you on a complete knowledge that America and their allies will not allow at all he is not in an Islamic state but until with the prominence of an Islamic power inside any country and their politics known that they will suppress any power before he appears . Then does she be ignorant the experience of the Islamic movements through the last fifty years ? does it be ignorant what happened in Sudan and Algeria and Turkey and Egypt ؟ so it sees that the exclusion of the jihad strengthens the Islam enemies scale because the money and the media and the tyranny is by their hand ؟ so the experience of the last years suffices for the refutation of your argument and the confirmation of the failure of the political Islam project from which the jihads are excluded ؟ then you have a problem in the understanding of a mechanism that represents the power .. القوى يا عزيزي تتشكل من خلال طريقتين الأولى: الحرب وعندما تنتصر في الحرب تمتلك قوة والمنتصرون في الحرب العالمية الثانية هم الذين أصبحوا يملكون القوة، والثانية أن يتبرع لك قوي بقوة من عنده وبهذه الطريقة ستبقى قوتك مرتبطة بالقوي الذي تبرع لك بتلك القوة بسبب مصالحه، وقد علمنا يقينا أن الغرب لا يسمح أبدا بتشكل قوة إسلامية ليست تحت سمعه وبصره أعني بحيث يديرها عملاؤه.

فقال: لكن الوقت جزء من الحل ولا بد من الصبر، وإذا لم تنجح المسالة في الخمسين سنة الماضية فيجب علينا أن لا نمل ولا نكل ونستمر نحاول. لكن قل لي كيف تريد للقاعدة أن تواجه بدون دولة وبدون مقدرات مع عدو متمكن وقوي ونفوذه ممتد في كل العالم؟

فقلت كيف تفكر يا أبا ياسر؟ يا أخي أولا ثبت أن القاعدة نجحت، وضربت وضربت وكررت الضربة وهي التي تبادر والأمريكان عليهم رد الفعل ولم تتأثر كوادرها بل تضخمت وكبرت. هذا الكلام لا يحتاج إثبات لأنه أمر حدث فعلا ويمكننا رصد التطور كما ذكرت لك في ردي السابق. ثانيا المشكلة التي تعاني منها أنت وتيارك هي ذات المشكلة التي تخلصت منها القاعدة وقلبت الموزاين وأربكت أمريكا وهي كونك تقيس وتفكر من خلال النمط الدارج في فهم القوة العسكرية والسياسية والاستراتيجية. القاعدة لعبت لعبة جديدة تماما خارجة عن كل قواعد اللعب المعروفة ولا يستطيع الأمريكان ولا غيرهم تصورها لأنهم مثلك مبرمجون على الأسلوب التقليدي في حسابات القوة والضعف. ومن خلال هذه الحيلة حولت القاعدة قوة الأمريكان إلى أداة ضعف تعمل ضدهم، ومن هنا أصبحت القاعدة تتضخم وتزداد قوتها بعد كل ردة فعل أمريكية. وأما مسألة تشكيل القاعدة لدولة فثق تماما أن القاعدة تسير في الطريق الطبيعي لإنشاء الدول ولابد أن تلاحظ أن مصير أمريكا الان على كف عفريت وانتظار الضربة التالية، وإذا لم تستطع أمريكا الحسم بعد مرور سنة فيجب أن يكون ذهنك متفتحا بشكل واسع لتقبل فكرة انهيار أمريكا إذا عاجلتها القاعدة بضربات جديدة .. وإذا انهارت أمريكا فهل لديك قدرة على تصور كيف سيكون وضع أحجار الشطرنج التي وضعها الغرب في بلاد المسلمين؟ أظنك لست محتاجا لمزيد من التفصيل أليس كذلك ؟

فقال: أنت لا تفتأ تضخم القاعدة وكأنها قوة ملهمة عبقرية لا تخطئ. إلى متى نستمر في هذه المبالغات والتغني بقدرات القاعدة.

فقلت : أولا أنا لم أبالغ ولم أتغنى، كل ما قلته حصل ولا تستطيع أنت ولا غيرك نفي أن القاعدة بعد كل ردة فعل أمريكية وتواطؤ عالمي ضدها تأتي بضربة أكبر وأضخم من الأولى وتحظى بتأييد أوسع وأشمل من السابق. ثانيا الحديث عن قدرة القاعدة على التعامل مع أمريكا بأسلوب لا تحسن أمريكا التعامل معه ليس كلامي أنا بل هو كلام استراتيجيين أمريكان أطلقوا على هذا التعبير الحرب غير المتوازية. وقالوا إن أمريكا لن تعجزها أي قوة في الأرض بالمقاييس المعروفة فقد تمكنت أمريكا عسكريا واقتصاديا وسياسيا واستخباراتيا وإعلاميا بل وحتى في فنون الحرب النفسية لكنها لا تحسن التعامل مع من يستخدم وسائل وأساليب غير معروفة للتجربة الأمريكية. وأطلقوا على هذا النوع من الحرب إسم الحرب غير المتوازية. وقالو في تقرير خاص إن هذه الحرب إذا لم يتمكنوا من احتوائها في الضربة الأولى فستكون هناك نذر انكشاف في القوة الأمريكية واحتمال خسارة حقيقية لأمريكا في هذه الحرب. صدقني هذا كلام حقيقي في تقرير رفع للرئيس الأمريكي كلينتون قبل أن ينصرف من الرئاسة وليس كلامي أنا. أسلوب وسياسية واستراتيجية القاعدة تنطبق تماما على هذا التوقع ومن هنا نقول لك أن هذا هو الإعداد والقوة.

زم أبو ياسر شفتيه وقال .. الغلو يا أخي الكريم وعين الرضا تجعلك تتحدث عن القاعدة بهذا الشكل .. بل وصل الأمر ببعض الناس في الانترنت أن صاروا يشنعون على أهل العلم ويتهمونهم في نياتهم ويصفونهم بالأوصاف البشعة كل ذلك بسبب الغلو في القاعدة وبن لادن..

فقلت : مثل من يا أبا ياسر ؟

فقال : مثل شخص في الانترنت يرمز لاسمه بـ ( لويس عطية الله ) بلغ به الحد أن كتب موضوعا يقول فيه ( أسامة بن لادن صلى الله عليه وسلم ) .. وطالب الناس أن يغسلوا أيديهم من شيوخ الصحوة ، وكأنه يريد إسقاطهم ! حسنا إذا غسلنا أيدينا من هؤلاء الشيوخ الذين قدموا للدعوة ما قدموا وسجنوا في الله سنوات فلمن نذهب ؟ والمشكلة أن لديه من يطبل له ويصفق له !

ابتسمت ابتسامة عريضة وقلت له : أنا لويس عطية الله !!

علت ملامح الدهشة وجه أبي ياسر ولم ينطق بكلمة ..

فقلت: نعم أنا لويس عطية الله ويبدو أنك لا تقرأ لي جيدا وإلا ما قلت ما قلت من كلام ، فأنا لم أقل (صلى الله عليه وسلم) بل قلت (صلى الله على أسامة بن لادن) وأنت يا أباياسر عربي وتفرق بين الجملتين فالأولى قد عرفت بين أهل العلم كلفظ ملاصق لذكر النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم والثانية دعاء عادي يصح أن تقوله في حق أي مسلم! وأما مسألة غسل اليدين من شيوخ الصحوة فهذا مقتضى ما علمونا هم، فهؤلاء الشيوخ قد تنكبوا طريق الحق الذي أخذناه منهم سنوات طويلة فإذا حادوا عن المنهج الذي ربونا عليه فلا خير فينا إذا لم نقل في وجوههم ارجعوا إلى الحق، وأما مسألة إسقاطهم فهذه لا يقوله سوى من لديه خوف داخلي من خطأ يدرك أنه واقع فيه، ومن أنا حتى أسقط هؤلاء الشيوخ؟ وإذا سقطوا فلن يسقطوا بسبب كلامي بل لأن الله تعالى قال لنا ( وإن تتولوا يستبدل قوما غيركم ثم لا يكونوا أمثالكم ) ..

سكت أبو ياسر ثم قال لي وأثر الصدمة بادية على وجهه : كيف تثبت لي أنك فعلا لويس عطية الله ؟

فقلت : حسنا هذه المناظرة سوف أكتبها باسم لويس وستراها بنفسك وتتأكد أن من كان يتحدث معك هو لويس عطية الله .

ثم سكتّ برهة وقلت: حسنا دعنا نتوقف الان عن الحديث عني ولنكمل حديثنا عن القاعدة .. ما رأيك في آخر كلام قلته ؟

فقال أبو ياسر: كلامك الأخير يعني أن القاعدة لديها خطط مستقبلة أخرى وربما ضربات في داخل أمريكا، إذا كان زعمك بوجود استراتيجية صحيحا فهل خططت القاعدة لطريقة ضبط الخطوات القادمة أو إنها فقط مسكونة بفكرة ضرب أمريكا ودفعها للغضب والانتقام من جديد؟ ألا تعتقد أن القاعدة إذا كانت فعلا مستعدة بضربات أخرى أو برامج أخرى أنها ستدفع الأمريكان لحملات انتقام من المسلمين ربما يستخدم فيها السلاح النووي أو غيره؟

فقلت : أمريكا تنتقم ممّن؟ أين تضع قنبلتها النووية؟ الطالبان فيما يبدو للأمريكان انتهوا، بن لادن والقاعدة اختفوا، أين توضع هذه القنبلة؟ كيف تنتقم أمريكا؟ كل بلاد العالم متواطئة ومتعاونة معها، أين تنتقم؟ كابل؟ قندهار؟ كلها معاقل للجيش الأمريكي وحلفائه الآن؟

قال : في أي مدينة إسلامية في بريدة في كراتشي، الأمريكان سيفقدون صوابهم بالكامل ويفكرون بطيش وجنون.

قلت: في البدء أنت جعلتَ أمريكا من أكثر دول العالم قدرة وتخطيطا وهيمنة، والآن تقول يفقدون صوابهم؟ ماذا سيجنون إن ضربوا مدينة إسلامية وبس؟ هل سيقضون على القاعدة وخطر القاعدة؟ يعني على الأقل في حملتهم الأخيرة رغم أنها في الجملة ليست في صالحهم لكن لها مبرر منطقي أنها قضاء على الدولة التي تؤويهم ومطاردتهم داخل أفغانستان. إما أن تعتبر الأمريكان أذكياء متمكنين قادرين كما وصفتهم أعلاه وبذلك لن يتصرفوا تصرفا أرعن وجنوني مثل ضرب مدينة إسلامية، أو تتراجع عن كلامك أعلاه وتقول الأمريكان حفنة مجانين لا يعرفون السياسة ولا الاستراتيجية

فقال: قل لي أنت إذا ما الذي تعتقد إذاً سيحصل لو حصلت ضربة أخرى؟ وهل الضربة الأخرى فعلا هي من برنامج القاعدة؟ أو دعنا نكون أكثر نظاما في السؤال ما هي خطط القاعدة المستقبلية؟ وكيف حسبتها على أساس ردود الفعل الأمريكية؟

ضحكت وقلت: أنا لا أستطيع أن أتحدث باسم القاعدة وأنبيء بخططها المستقبلية لكن هناك كلام شبه أكيد عن ضربة كبيرة قادمة لأمريكا وربما أكبر من ضربة، وربما هناك عمليات في مناطق أخرى غير أمريكا. لكن القاعدة يبدو لا ترغب أن تعمل شيئا كبيرا إلى أن تظهر علامات تفكك وانهيار وهزيمة في أمريكا. في نظري ستشعر أمريكا بشلل كامل لو حصلت ضربة أخرى وسيصاب الشعب الأمريكي بحالة من الإحباط الوطني الذي يشعرهم بأنهم مهزومون وأن هذا العدو لا يصلح مواجهته بالقوة بل لا بد من الخضوع لمطالبه. سيناريو آخر هو أن تبدأ جهات أمريكية بالتضايق من سياسة واشنطن وترفض تحمل تبعات تصرفات الحكومة ضد المسلمين. خذ مثلا كاليفورنيا تنتج ثلث الناتج القومي لأمريكا، لماذا تتحمل تبعات التصرفات السيئة لواشنطن في العالم الإسلامي؟ لن نستغرب إذا رأينا دعوات في كاليفورنيا بالانفصال أو حتى من جهات أخرى. سيناريو آخر أن يتشدد دعاة اليمين في أمريكا للتخلي عن الحريات والديموقراطية وتحويل ولاياتهم إلى ولايات عسكرية بحكم صارم لا يسمح باختراقات أمنية. أمريكا سيسودها قطعا حالة من الانهيار النفسي والاقتصادي والشك بذاتها. أوربا والجهات الداعمة لأمريكا ستنسحب خوفا من أن تصبح هدف القاعدة القادم. الانظمة الطاغوتية في البلاد الإسلامية ستكون في أضعف ما يمكن بسبب ضعف السيد الأول.

فقال : سبحان الله تصرون على تضخيم نتائج ما تقوم به القاعدة ونحن نرى أمريكا امتصّت ما حصل في سبتمبر وكأن شيئا لم يكن .. ثم ضحك ابو ياسر وأردف: كيف لا تستطيع أن تتحدث باسم القاعدة وأنت (صجّيتنا) كل يوم منزل مقال عن القاعدة؟

ابتسمت وقلت: كيف كأن شيئا لم يكن؟ هل أذنك في صمم وعينك في عمى عما حصل للاقتصاد الأمريكي؟ ألا ترى حالة الشك والترقب عند الأمريكان والتي تسكتها الحكومة بالمزايدة على محاربة الإرهاب؟ أليست هذه مقدمات واضحة لاستقطاب كبير في المجتمع الأمريكي يخفيه مكارثية محاربة الإرهاب؟

فقال : أنا لا أريد أن أظهر بمظهر الذي يدافع عن أمريكا لكن أمريكا مجتمع ديموقراطي لديه مؤسسات راسخة تستطيع أن تتعامل مع تحديات من أي نوع لأن العقلية الجماعية عندهم منظمة وتنظر للأمور نظرا علميا مدروسا ولا نظن أنهم سيصعب عليهم الصحوة بعد أي هجوم.

فقلت : والله شوف، أصلا لم يحطم الأمريكان في تعاملهم مع بن لادن إلا أنهم تُشل عندهم القدرة على التفكير الجماعي إذا استفزوا بالطريقة التي يمارسها تنظيم القاعدة. لكن حتى لو افترضنا وحصل أن عادوا إلى رشدهم فلن يكون لديهم خيار إلا التسليم وتنفيذ كل مطالب بن لادن بطريقة الخائب الضعيف. إيقاف دعم إسرائيل رفع الحصار عن العراق سحب قواتهم من بلاد الحرمين و التخلي عن الطواغيت العرب. ألا ترى هذا نصرا عظيما للقاعدة؟

قال أبو ياسر : ومن منا يكره هزيمة أمريكا ؟ يارب ..

فقلت: يارب ..

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